Q. MLive Exposes Amway…NOT!

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5/29/2014 – More censoring from MLive, here’s the original story comments: Amway calls second arrest of leader in India ‘unjustified and unnecessary’ _ MLive (you may have to save the document and zoom in to read the removed comments) and here’s the current link: http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2014/05/amway_leader_arrested_in_india.html The press is supposed to be the 4th pillar of government, but MLive has been controlled by Amway for a VERY long time, because Amway pays them off with all kinds of community “goodies.” LOL

 

 

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I wanted to notify and thank you all for protecting Amway regardless of how unethically, immorally, and illegally they operate their business, in a manner much closer to Bernie Madoff than a legitimate business.
Amway has ripped off literally millions of people for several decades, to the tune of 10s to 100s of billions of dollars, and this situation has been fixed in other countries, such as the UK and India, but not in the U.S.
But as long as Grand Rapids is doing okay from their guilt ridden contributions, everything is okay, isn’t it?
I have been “banned” from your site and will soon place this email and some of the comments I saved before being “scrubbed” from your site, which are also attached for your convenience.
I know, I probably broke some of your posting rules, and others who were not removed also violated your rules, but if you’re looking for an excuse, any excuse will do, right?
Who cares about consistency? It’s terribly overrated.
Your inability/unwillingness to do your sacred journalism job of shining the bright light of truth on the activities on all citizens is the main reason why journalists are so widely looked down upon, and one of many reasons why your “profession” is rapidly disappearing.
I’ll assume you are kept alive with Amway money, and therefore operate in concert with Amway to keep their tool scam alive.
This goes a long way to explain why Amway stays in the Grand Rapids area, they couldn’t have the media in their back pocket in a large city.
Here’s my blog, you will soon be the second thread on it: stoptheamwaytoolscam.wordpress.com
Regards,
Scott Johnson
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Scott Johnson

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

MLive doesn’t deserve their own blog. Perhaps a single thread on my blog….

1. Amway publishes the GROSS profit for the average IBO. I’m interested in the NET profit of IBOs. You can’t spend gross profit, only net profit.
2. Which TOS did I violate?

As you can see, NEITHER organization is honest about how they operate. This isn’t my expectation, it is what should be any reasonable person’s expectation.

I’ll stick with my factual Amway web site for now, I’ll let you save the rest of the world.

There are literally MILLIONS of people who “failed” at Amway because they got ripped off, and that’s why Amway was willing to settle with Pokorny for $155 million, it keeps them out of court.

Grow up and stop being ignorant.

All of my “claims” are backed up on my site. Why don’t you bring up something specific I’ve said rather than your nebulous “conspiracy in every dark corner” tripe? I never said everything the government does, or any large corporation, is illegal by default, that was YOU making that statement. Not me. There’s no reasoning with you. You are the adult equivalent of a three-year-old covering his ears and shouting “I can’t hear you!”

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Re: Southwest Michigan Links: Battle Creek man loses $30,000 in phone scam

Another scam everyone should be aware of is the Amway Tool Scam. Google stoptheamwaytoolscam for more information.

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

The point is the truth is being suppressed, and you don’t care. If you don’t want to know the truth, you haven’t missed much. I’ll bet you like your government lying to you as well, don’t you, Mikey?

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

I’m not crying, but you should be, as your local media isn’t doing their job.

This outlet will be apologizing to me in less than a year. What what happens….

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

Actually, it applies to all levels of government. But when free speech abuse is extended to the private sector, although not against the law, it is against an honest, open, and transparent discussion of the facts. I don’t like it, and already have my own website. I also copied all of my comments that used to be posted, to show others how MLive apparently wants to shield their “sugar daddy”, aka Amway. LOL

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

Don’t you believe in freedom of speech? You should probably remove leftiesareillogical’s comment as well, as it is a response to my comment. It no longer makes any sense. Did you know I literally put my life on the line in the military to protect YOUR freedom of speech?

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

Why did you remove my comments?

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Re: Right to work: West Michigan’s GOP-heavy delegation, and its one Democrat, sound off

You are focused on the Amway products, the Amway Tool Scam is focused on the Amway Tool Scam. Read the blog, then try asking an informed question.

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Re: Watch for text message gift card scam at holidays, Better Business Bureau warns

You need to educate yourself. I suggest you start with my blog, and search on the words “UK” and “India.”

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Re: Right to work: West Michigan’s GOP-heavy delegation, and its one Democrat, sound off

A few people getting rich because millions were ripped off isn’t my idea of a success story. Just because DeVos gives away some of his loose change because he feels guilty about how he achieved his billions in the first place doesn’t make it right. Or good. You need to read my blog and become educated about this issue.

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Re: Amway acquires most of Ada village to enable redesign project

Rubbish. Bernie’s scam was around for decades before he was caught, and Amway has been caught in the UK, India, and perhaps other countries I’m not aware of. You obviously didn’t read my blog to educate yourself about these facts. I was scammed just like millions of others have been for the past several decades, to the tune of 10s to 100s of billions of dollars.

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Re: Watch for text message gift card scam at holidays, Better Business Bureau warns

Another scam everyone should be aware of is the Amway Tool Scam. Google stoptheamwaytoolscam for more information.

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Re: Grand Rapids protest of right-to-work in Michigan targets Dick DeVos, ‘Gov. Divider’

You’re right, I hate scammers. Do you like them?

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Re: Grand Rapids protest of right-to-work in Michigan targets Dick DeVos, ‘Gov. Divider’

Matt,

You missed the point. The point is somebody who has money because their daddy started a scam, and he was a CEO of the scam, isn’t qualified to get involved in this issue any more than Bernie Madoff is. It has NOTHING to do with RTW, it has EVERYTHING to do with who he is, a scammer. You obviously didn’t read my blog.

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Re: Right to work: West Michigan’s GOP-heavy delegation, and its one Democrat, sound off

DeVos is rich because his daddy started Amway, which is a scam. He doesn’t have the ethical or moral authority to be involved in this issue. Google stoptheamwaytoolscam for more information.

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Re: Tim Skubick: Didn’t Dick DeVos once say right to work is a divisive issue? Now he’s a force behind it

DeVos got his money from his daddy, who started the Amway scam, therefore he has no ethical or moral authority in this matter. Google stoptheamwaytoolscam for more information.

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Re: Grand Rapids hot headlines: Amway heir Dick and Betsy DeVos’ ‘Scandalous’ run with Kathie Lee Gifford on Broadway comes to an end

DeVos doesn’t know how to run a real business or a political campaign, all he knows is the Amway scam business – google stoptheamwaytoolscam for more information.

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Re: Amway heir Dick and Betsy DeVos’ ‘Scandalous’ run with Kathie Lee Gifford on Broadway comes to an end

DeVos only knows how to scam people, a legitimate business or political campaign requires too much transparency. Google stoptheamwaytoolscam for more information.

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Re: Grand Rapids protest of right-to-work in Michigan targets Dick DeVos, ‘Gov. Divider’

Matt,

DeVos doesn’t have the moral or ethical standing to be involved in this issue. Just google stoptheamwaytoolscam and see for yourself, the entire Amway company is a farse.

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Re: Right-to-work live chat recap: ‘Unpatriotic’ unions, freeloaders and ties between Gov. Snyder and Dick DeVos

DeVos has no moral or ethical standing in this matter. Amway operates a RICO scam I refer to as the Amway Tool Scam. Just google “stoptheamwaytoolscam” for more information.

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Here’s another string of emails I traded with “Dave”:

I thought you would enjoy this string of emails I had with Dave, the last of which apparently resulted in me being “banned” from your site.
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From: Tex
To: “Murray, David” <DMURRAY@mlive.com>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012
Subject: Re: Dick DeVos
Hello?

From: Tex
To: “Murray, David” <DMURRAY@mlive.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Subject: Re: Dick DeVos

Dave,
Scott, those are pretty hefty allegations. Care to back them up with facts?Multi-level marketing isn’t my thing, but that doesn’t mean it’s a scam. Unlike a bogus investment, with Amway you do get products/services for the money spent.The problem is many people have unrealistic expectations about how easy it will be to turn this consumer driven company into a profitable ‘independent business owner’ opportunity.The greatest part is, that if you don’t want to buy Amway stuff…you don’t have to. In fact, I have never bought an Amway product, but I do rather enjoy the fruits of them being in GR.

This poster is naming me by name, and the comment he was responding to that was removed was:
Rubbish. Bernie’s scam was around for decades before he was caught, and Amway has been caught in the UK, India, and perhaps other countries I’m not aware of. You obviously didn’t read my blog to educate yourself about these facts. I was scammed just like millions of others have been for the past several decades, to the tune of 10s to 100s of billions of dollars.
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You may not be aware, but the Pokorny lawsuit was recently settled, for a reported $155 million. However, the settlement does not address the central issue, the massive amounts of money being made on the tools, and now our 95 page objection has been “lost” between the class administrators and the Pokorny lawyers, and is the only objection which didn’t show up with the 18 others that were a part of the settlement decision. I can forward you the email exchange I have with the lawyers, claiming they didn’t receive the objection, as well as the objection itself, which the class administrator states they have, and they are right now determining whether it was ever sent to the lawyers.

From: “Murray, David” <DMURRAY@mlive.com>
To: Tex
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Subject: RE: Dick DeVos

Absolutely, point them out. Sometime the volume and speed at which they appear makes it a challenge to keep up and I miss some. It’s been one of those weeks.
From: Tex
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012
To: Murray, David
Subject: Re: Dick DeVos
Dave,
Thanks, I was merely presenting facts, and was confronted with all kinds of nonsensical comments in return. However, I saw at least a couple of comments that were left hanging after my comment was removed. I can tell you which ones if you’re interested. As the topic I brought up is rather unpleasant by its nature, it is a short distance to the playground taunts. If you read all of my comments, I think you will find I was the one pulling towards the kitchen table, and the others were pulling towards the playground.
Regards,
Scott J

From: “Murray, David” <DMURRAY@mlive.com>
To: Tex
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Subject: RE: Dick DeVos
Thanks, Scott. I’ll give a look.
Our comment removal software removes all responses to a deleted comment. I’m assuming because it would be out of context of comments were left hanging out there. But many times that means non-offensive comments get removed, too.
And, a lot of time, people can just make the same point, but can do so with the insulting language.
We’re trying to make the comments more of a kitchen table discussion and not playground taunts. It’s a project…..
From: Tex
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012
To: Murray, David
Subject: Dick DeVos
Dave,
Thanks for responding. My original comment on the recent story: http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/12/dick_devos.html was related to how Dick DeVos got the money in the first place in order to be involved in this issue in the manner he is involved, providing funding for the RTW legislation passage AND a promise to financially support potential recall/reelection campaigns in the future.
In order to understand my position, read my blog: https://stoptheamwaytoolscam.wordpress.com/, and I would be happy explain this situation further and answer all of your questions via email or over the telephone. Thanks again.
Regards,
Scott Johnson
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Here’s the “official” explanation. It’s obvious they are more interested in banning people than the truth:

From: “Eyer, Jennifer” <jeyer@mlive.com>
To: “stoptheamwaytoolscam@yahoo.com” <stoptheamwaytoolscam@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012
Subject: account on MLive

Your account on Mlive.com has been disabled due to repeated violations of the Community Rules, which you agreed to follow when you signed up for this account.
Prohibitions on Use of the Service:
Absent explicit prior written consent in certain situations, you may not, nor may you allow, enable, authorize, instruct, encourage, assist, suggest, inform, or promote that others, directly or indirectly, do any of the following for any reason:
  • repeatedly post, upload, transmit, send or otherwise make available on or through the Service the same Content multiple times in a day, week, or month;
  • post, upload, transmit, send or otherwise make available on or through the Service any Content that constitutes junk mail, spam, pyramid schemes, chain letters, phishing, advertising, and/or commercial offers, including without limitation touting or recommending any stocks or particular security, portfolio of securities, transaction or investment strategy;
Jen Eyer
Statewide Community Engagement Director
MLive.com
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